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This greatly amuses me

The actual unironic answer is that people don’t find the personality appealing for a tulpa, I suppose

>background pony ?que

[Applejack-based tulpas regard the internet as a bunch of hogwash.]

what

5:20 AM

WHAT

5:21 AM

Can you dumb down that sentence Elantrian

I’ve got a dual threat of the two most common pony tulpas lol

did you mean to say "Apple Jack based tulpas do not like the internet, they think it is a bunch of hogwash (and therefore are less present because of this)"

[Yes.]

okay good.

5:22 AM

my AJ doesn't really think like that, she's deviated a lot

5:22 AM

form has even changed a bit

So, I think most people are also making tulpas for companions, right? Do any of the guides take tulpamancy as a pragmatic tool into account?

pragmatic

5:22 AM

questions?

5:22 AM

is that what that word means?

Practical

I’m going to bed. But yeah all current guides are trash and I know how to fix them, but can’t do so any time soon. It can wait, though. Good night.

oh cool

good night

um... really they all do that

5:23 AM

AJ tells me when I am being a fag

I should probably write my own "guide" at some point.

probably, you seem quite knowledgable about this stuff

Primarily because I say the same general thing to everyone.

I could write a guide

5:24 AM

nah probably not

5:24 AM

too much work and AJ is still developing

[I got into tulpa stuff because of the practical benefits - specifically, parallel processing. and I still can't do it]

5:25 AM

[But in the meantime, I made an awesome new friend!]

"Based on prior case studies and research, experience develops personality and personal capability. Therefore, give your tulpa experience and it will gradually develop them."

I wanted a friend, just a friend, but things changed, new base, still wanted to stay platonic, didn't work that way, etc. etc., more than friends, progression, I didn't see it turning out this way I really didnt

5:25 AM

I ought to give her more experiences

That is, in two sentences, my most basic advice to give people.

my advice is "give lot's of love!"

5:26 AM

the more attention you give the better

Or rather, that I give to people.

speaking of attention, I really ought to give that to AJ

5:26 AM

[you think?]

<Ponytail> I would write a guide if there weren't guides out there that already said all I want to say.

5:29 AM

<Ponytail> so instead I write "fuck you, you're wrong"s

I have a question for hosts with a strong wonderland: if you were to imagine an item (e.g. a rock floating in midair) staying fast in one spot, can a tulpa forcefully move that item if you are trying to keep it still? Are they strong enough to overpower your imagination and change it against your will?

5:30 AM

In otherwords, can any of your tulpas win (or at least give a little bit of competition) in a mental tug-of-war type game?

<Ponytail> ehm, trying it out now. Yeah, I got Goliathed

5:32 AM

<Ponytail> but

5:33 AM

<Ponytail> WL stuff is mostly pointless to worry about

yes

5:33 AM

AJ has done a kitchen remodel before

5:33 AM

oh wait never mind

5:33 AM

misread

5:33 AM

never tried

We're still working on parallel stuff. Until then, we just trade which of us is "active", so in a tug of war, the active one would win.

yeah I tried to keep a book on a shelf with my mind and she knocked it over. hand went through it at first but she knocked it over

Huh! That's interesting

<Ponytail> do you ever really encounter resistance when using your imagination? Same kinda applies to my tulpas

then again I am a bit of a simpleton and our mindscape reflects that, mind powers and nope I held it down and she knocked it over anyway.

I don't care about the 'wonderland', but I believe I do have a situation related to it. I can forcefully switch in if necessary, but it depends on her mental state.

personally when we are in the mindscape she is usually either A: cooking in our nice log cabin house, or B: leaning on my shoulder on our dumpy couch in the old scrap metal house listening to music. We have different house preferances

Willpower varies between each of us throughout the day, so we are not perfectly equal.

>switching

5:36 AM

wew

It depends on what we are doing, how significantly we want to do it, how 'stable' we currently are emotionally, etc.

spooky

5:36 AM

@metanomial how far in are you and is your tupp okay with you sharing progress?

Well, it's day 12. I decided to go against every guide I read and make a tulpa without a form or personality in mind, and see where things went.

I heavily reccomend working on form

5:38 AM

day 1 and 2 were all form and mindscape for us and I think it paid dividends in her devlopement

I've been parroting them since day one. Initially they had my voice but in a whisper. They started vocalizing in their own voice day 9. I can safely say they are male.

because it isn't the form that matters, but rather, the fact that you are spending an hour (or maybe 30 minutes) actively focusing on them and them alone, and cementing them into your mind

5:39 AM

I parroted day 6 and 7 and then stopped because well, I think it was fucking her up because I was full of doubt and didn't do it well

I don't care much for form at the moment. They look like a silhouette of a human. We are going to pick out a form and name later.

<Ponytail> even giving my tup a female form, her voice was male until I made her a voice (edited)

5:40 AM

<Ponytail> so, I wouldn't put too much stock in that

I am a firm believer that form is important

5:41 AM

form form form

Meh

AJ has deviated, and in the best ways possible, but still, giving her that slate to work with mattered

Form is unnecessary.

5:43 AM

Helpful, but unnecessary.

Agree to disagree

<Ponytail> I'm a firm believer that all is worthless slag forcing wise if you aren't comfortable with what you're doing

It can be quite helpful for the purpose of interaction, but it is not intrinsically necessary to make a tulpa.

I think it's more that you spend those first bits of time focusing on them hardcore.

5:44 AM

the interaction element really. But I needed it for active forcing

I'm having issue with my tulpa deviating drastically right now. He's still reliant on every thought I have, and I can feel myself parroting his responses (though the lines between me and him are growing more distinct). However, I haven't been liking the turn in his personality. He's been a bit mean spirited with responses, and he's been disregarding a few of the core attributes I wanted him to have in his personality. It may be related to the fact that I'm feeling under the weather, and my imagination gets a little out of control when I'm sick. I could easily just force rewrite the parts of his personality that I don't like, but that feels couterproductive to making them an independent individual. That's where I'm at right now

you can focus without focusing on their form

if you want to do stuff with imposition or in a wonderland, a form helps

5:45 AM

but you can definitely spend time with them without one

maybe it has something to do with your trying to control him too much?

AJ is snarky as shit, and has a temper. Both things I didn't want at first but I find incredibly ~~attractive~~ likeable now. When you say mean, break it down

@Srn347 Precisely.

this may honestly just be you

@metanomial You could explain why you dislike the mean spirited responses rather than attempting to force the tulpa into a box.

I often go down rabbit holes like this as well, but I snap out of them pretty well.

5:46 AM

Winter you worded that really well, you are the wiser man here.

@SkyeNet, that's the plan for now. I came here earlier asking about this because I wasn't sure I could simply "convince" them to do something. I guess it's the same thing as narration, though

mhm. The idea that you go straight to "force rewriting" them is worrying.

5:48 AM

Treat them with respect, like a person, and you will get it in return.

No, I don't like that idea. Though I did think of it very quickly